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Yes war is ugly but I don't think throw puppies off cliffs and other mischief is a part of 'Liberating a countyr for the people.'

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all i have to say is shit happens in war, its an ugly thing so deal with it, i'm sure theres things militaries do that are 10X's worse than this.


I think it's cute(sarcasm) how people like to blow certain things off by saying "Oh, worse is going on" or "You're worried about that when you could be worried about 'THIS'(ex)???!!!" It's like, yeah, it's not the worst thing in the world, but it certainly isn't the best either and it needs to be addressed.

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Only Ron Paul can save the puppies. VOTE RP IN 08!


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Seriously considering it. :)

On another note, i agree Awol, i saw the video too, that sick fuck enjoyed doing it. He personally should be given the same treatment. HOWEVER, given the prior evidence before i looked elsewhere for a better video, i wondered if there wasn't a possibility that they were in a covert mission and a gun shot would jeopardize their mission and the puppy was barking and it could do the same.

In this(COMPLETELY HYPOTHETICAL) instance, if the puppy died on impact, that may be a necessary casualty. I would never want the puppy to suffer, i would hope it would have died instantly and painlessly. But at the same time I will NEVER put an animal's life in front of a humans. NEVER! If that puppy was a risk for that unit, then it should have been dealt with. End of story.

But up until i found the other video, all i could do was speculate. Which is honestly all that most everyone else is doing. (Along with just passing it off on the American government because beating animals is all in a day's work for most Americans) It is not fair to stereotype all marines as being like this, even though I know that that is the general persona around the world. I will be VERY surprised if this guy is not dishonorably discharged for psychological problems.

..and dont worry, you'll be able to read about it later because the American Media hates the GOP so much that they will try to say that George Bush is his long lost 2445345345th cousin and that he somehow talked him into doing it. Hell, i'm sure they will bring in an expert witness who saw Cheney order it.


BTW, i voted for Bush 2x :) If given the chance, honestly.... I would probably vote for him again... I'm not too big on his current fiscal policies, but I'm for him having the balls to stand up for what he believes in.

If you vote for a president who is scared to stand up for themselves (for his people) then you will end up with a gigantic pussy like Carter for president.

Read up on his bitch slapping by Iran. He basically stood back and let them walk all over us, while he sat back and wet himself. They held AMERICAN hostages for over a year and would not send someone over there to get them back. For 444 days terrorists held 52 American citizens captive. It took Ronald Reagan taking office for them to be set free. (BTW, Reagan was also around for the tearing down of the Berlin Wall)

History, it does a body good.

Feel free to respond to this. I hate Jimmy Carter more than i hate people who drive ricers. (Which btw is ALOT!!!!one_one_eleventy1) So, i will be glad to debate his foreign policy.

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All of this reminds me of a short story we did in my English class about the Vietnam war. Basically there's a draft notice for this one guy and he runs away because he doesn't want to fight in a war. He ends up going to war because he feels like he'd be letting down his friends, family, and country. When he came back from the war he found out that all the soldiers were hated for the war in Vietnam because the rest of the world (including America now) didn't feel like the US had a right to start a war there.

Personally, I like to believe that there's compassion, intellegence, and sympathy in every person but sometimes reality hits us too hard and too fast to understand everything at one.

Basically I stand by my previous statement. WAR = SUCKS.

Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity.

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i watched the video a few times an it honestly looks fake, the dog dosen't move at all and when thrown doesn't kick its legs about when in the air, and who knows the dog sounds could have been added in to make it seem real


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i bet if we didn't use billions of dollars on war, we would be using it on something else, like making 999999999x faster space shuttles and meeting aliens, hell yeah, or having 999999999x faster comps! or something really fascinating

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trillions* of dollars.

And no, we wouldn't spend it all on 999999x better computers. We wouldn't borrow and spend it on anything and the recession we're about to enter, or already in for that matter, would be just the imagination of fools.

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And putting that money on NASA wouldn't help at all. Those lazy bastards don't do crap at all. We need another space race.



BTW there is a discussion of sending someone alone in a one way trip to mars.

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i'd be scared if i was going to mars alone, and display, don't gotta be a party pooper :evil:

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itll only take a few billion dollars to end world hunger but oh wait that doesn't benefit us in any way so i guess we wont pay for it

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Orange, your canadian, You guys never start wars or anything so why don't you use the money from all the wars you didn't fight and end world hunger instead of depending US to do it. :twisted:

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Maybe it's because we put our money into health care? Also if I remember correctly there is also Canadians fighting along with the Americans in Iraq. I sense some American-Canadian tension here. I'm Canadian, I don't want to cause you any harm, and I won't!.

This reminds me of back in 2004 i think it was where (i'm not sure where I heard it) the money spent in fighting the Iraq war could have fed 4 million people in Africs for 30 years. I'm not sure how accurate that is but I distinctly remember hearing it somewhere.

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trillions* of dollars.

And no, we wouldn't spend it all on 999999x better computers. We wouldn't borrow and spend it on anything and the recession we're about to enter, or already in for that matter, would be just the imagination of fools.


Display, i assure you that if Obama wins, we will "magically come out of" said recession.

Its amazing how much power the House/Senate have. The same thing happened to George Sr. when he was in office. That is the ONLY reason that Clinton won is because we were in a terrible recession when the election came around.

I agree with you Maverick war sucks, but when you are fighting people who reason with blowing up women and children then you have to re-consider how you do things. There is apparently no "normal course of reasoning with this type of people"

Now, I understand that my previous "those people" statement may offend some people as i understand we do have some Muslims in our clan. Please understand that i was not talking about Muslims or Islam in general. I'm talking about the EXXXXXXtreme group of people, who have taken that religion and skewed it to say what they want it to say and in effect are no longer Muslims but a faction of people who are hiding under the Muslim name.

For example, I'm Christian. Westboro Baptist Church claims to be Christians as well. Yet they don't believe as 99.99999999999% of all Christians around the world believe. I don't think that they can be considered Christians...
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These stupid fucks are NOT Christians. Even though a lot of people would like to group them in with us anyways.

Alright then, back to my main point. You have to handle people like this differently. You cant reason with someone who only wants violence. Violence breeds more violence and so on. Its a vicious cycle, but until you put an end to it it wont stop, and in this particular case, you are not able to sit back and hope it stops. That was our solution in the 70's and its not a reasonable solution anymore. We have learned that it wont stop and that we have to take action now. If that action is taking someone out of office that is very unstable and has weapons that can harm a large amount of people... then so be it.

...and please, don't start the "well, you didn't find any WMD's there so...your point is invalid"

AMERICA GAVE HIM THE WMD'S DURING THE IRAN CONTRA, WE KNOW THAT HE HAD WMD'S. The only reason he wouldn't have had them, is if he used them all on the Kurds, at which..well, he should have been taken out of power again for genocide.

So...now we have to make sure that none of these extreme factions do come to power and get the power of an army going in their favor. Could you imagine how powerful/dangerous they would be if they were to no longer be a guerrilla movement and had the might of a nations army at their disposal?

So... that is where we are, we are currently occupying this nation to help it builds its own legs to stand on, so that when we leave, they will not be overtaken by an extreme party. ie. Hammas

(which is based in Iran)(which is bad)(very bad)

OK, its early. i am tired. that is my rebuttal, i look forward to someone else's argument on this as this is just one man's take on it all.

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you talk too much^ jk :P

and fine, we could use the trillions of dollars for vaccines, cures, create human life (some guy is on the verge of doing it! he's racing the gov't and he's in the lead! m-azing it can benefit us in so many ways, and i forgot how they could, and they out-weigh the cons) and maybe if we never did warring, then global warming wouldn't be as bad as this, or maybe worse :S i hate possibilites

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