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Author:  bob [ Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:17 pm ]
Post subject:  My Penryn and me...
Hello everyone. As a lot of you may know, i just started building a computer...

Here it is...
https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Wishlist/PublicWishDetail.asp?WishListNumber=8097786&WishListTitle=New+Build

as promised.. here is my tutorial(not complete)(and not professional,) if you see errors...PLEASE notify me. I know what I'm doing, but I'm not proficient in putting it on "paper."

I'm sorry, i didn't take pictures of my installation of my Power Supply...I didn't think i was going to do the tutorial at the time of me installing it. Its a very basic thing to do though, screws line up, switches go to the outside. Cables face towards the front of the case.

Here is my motherboard... nothing done to it yet.
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I went ahead and pulled all of the passive heatsinks off and re-applied a good thermal compound. I personally prefer Arctic Silver 5. You pull the pins off (be careful not to break them)(also, be careful not to lose the springs[i'm still missing one ;) ]) and pull the copper off, put a VERY thin layer of AS5 on there (like a dot...seriously) and spread it w/ the tip of a card (i used an old credit card). Make sure it's spread evenly.

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Mount them back in their correct places making sure that you screw them in tightly(but not too tight to break the MOBO.)

Then you are going to need to pull out your processor and clean the top(dull metal piece) with a rag and rubbing alcohol. Do the same w/ the bottom of the Zalman cooler. Pull the plastic piece out of the CPU holding mount and place the CPU in there and close it shut.

Here is a picture of it w/ the Zalman brackets and the plastic covering on it.
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Mount the Zalman Cooler's brackets(both bottom and top and then place a thin layer of AS5 on the cleaned CPU top. (once again, the thinner the better, you just want to make sure that you have an equal layer across the surface of the shield. And then the smallest dot you can possibly manage to put in the middle, put it there. If you think you put too much, then you probably did.

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Mount your Zalman to the CPU/Its brackets. It will come w/ a weird bracket type thing, you can figure that out. Pretty basic. You want to make sure that the Fan is facing the RAM or if your mounting it while in case...its exhaust is facing to an exhaust fan on the case.

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Now is a good time to address the Fan I/Cole ghetto rigged onto the North bridge (the big copper thing beside the bigger copper thing) Yes, those are zip ties. I took the Silver thing off the top(refer to the pictures up top of the "ULTRA DURABLE EXTREME BLAH BLAH BLAH" yea, i took that off and zip tied a fan to that. I think its a 60mm. not sure. Cole can confirm it. It will come in crucial when i get to higher voltages in my Overclocking.

Here's a good pic with nothing on the copper North Bridge cooler.
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Insert the RAM...
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And now is the time to mount the MOBO to the Case.
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There are holes in MOBO that will coincide with mounting brackets inside the case. You can figure that out, i didn't feel pictures were necessary. If you made it this far, you will figure it out.

Now, when you are air cooling your CPU air flow is VERY important! You want NO wires running across your MOBO unless 100% necessary. Wire management is VERY important.

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thats the back of the case(hidden wires can be taped/strapped here coming from the Power Supply to wherever needed on the MOBO)
--------------------------> is the top. So, keep that in mind. I was taking that pic pretty late last night. So... yea.

Now you plug things in to your MOBO.
Here is the power cord.
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Here is Cole pluggin in the 4pin. I had a hard time with it.(i have fat fingers)
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Notice he cut himself on my Zalman. I think i'm going to sell it to he highest bidder.

THE stackableNut's blood. Its gotta be worth...something.

I cut myself on it too though... :)
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So..beware.. those fins are sharp!

Everything except my DVD/RW's SATA cable and My HDD's SATA cables are ran here. All of my fan Power cables are in the back of my case or under my power supply. All of my front cables are ran through the back and up under near my Power Supply entrance gap.

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I unfortunately don't have a good pic of the SATA cables. It was late by this time. once again...sleepy.

BUT, in so many words, that is a build. Not too hard. Install an OS/drivers(normally come w/ MOBO) and your on your way.
Author:  bob [ Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:28 pm ]
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StackableNut wrote:
As a typical rule, take the stock voltage of your chip, multiply it by 1.20 (20% overvolt) and this is the max "safe" over voltage on air, but normally is too much for air (the temps get too high)
-My AMDx2 = 1.35*1.20= 1.62 I ran mine at 1.55 (temps were getting high)
-Current Core2 65nm = 1.325*1.2 = 1.59 (I have never ran one over 1.5)
-New Core2 45nm = 1.15*1.2= 1.38, there has been numerous reports that sustaned voltage ABOVE 1.40 (EVEN 1.41) has caused chip derogation, this is where the chip need more and more voltage to run high speeds, and normally is on the way to being trash. Alot of these people have pushed it to 1.5v for testing reasons, which is stupid, keep it at or below 1.38 and you will have 0 problems.

Also there is a rate of diminishing returns with voltage because the actual chip has a limit of what it can do (unless the chip undergoes extreme cooling, like nitrogen and such).

On my old AMD the chip was a 2.4, known MAX overclock of this chip was about 2.8-3.0, I was running air.
On stock 1.35 voltage I could get about 2.55 @ 32 degrees
on 1.45 I could get about 2.65 @35 degrees
on 1.55 I could get 2.75 @ 40 degrees <--- this is where I put it for 2 years
on 1.65 I could only get 2.8 @ 60 degrees <--- you see this did not give me much, but gave me HUGE temps


Now that my build is done. I started on my Overclocking process... at this time, i am ONLY working on my CPU. The above should be a decent explanation to what these #'s mean. These is my current progress. Ill update it semi-regularly.
Author:  bob [ Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:29 pm ]
Post subject: 
CPU Overclock:

Prime Test:

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CPU Volt: 1.20v
CPU HOst Frequency:378mhz 3.40Ghz Temperature: 32 10 minutes stable *
CPU HOst Frequency:389mhz 3.50Ghz Temperature: 0 minutes (fail)
CPU HOst Frequency:384mhz 3.45Ghz Temperature: 32 2 minutes (fail)


CPU Volt: 1.225v stock voltage
CPU HOst Frequency:384mhz 3.45Ghz Temperature: 33 7 minutes stable *
CPU HOst Frequency:389mhz 3.50Ghz Temperature: 32 2 minutes (fail)


CPU Volt: 1.25v
CPU HOst Frequency:389mhz 3.50Ghz Temperature: 33 9 minutes stable *
CPU HOst Frequency:395mhz 3.55Ghz Temperature: 33 3 minutes (fail)


CPU Volt: 1.275v
CPU HOst Frequency:395mhz 3.55Ghz Temperature: 36 10 minutes stable
CPU HOst Frequency:400mhz 3.60Ghz Temperature: 36 10 minutes stable
CPU HOst Frequency:406mhz 3.65Ghz Temperature: 39 0 minutes (fail)

CPU Volt: 1.300v
CPU HOst Frequency:406mhz 3.65Ghz Temperature: 39 75 minutes stable
CPU HOst Frequency:412mhz 3.70Ghz Temperature: 39 14 minutes stable *
CPU HOst Frequency:417mhz 3.75Ghz Temperature: 39 0 minutes (fail)

CPU Volt: 1.325v
CPU HOst Frequency:417mhz 3.75Ghz Temperature: 39 0 minutes (fail)

CPU Volt: 1.350v
CPU HOst Frequency:417mhz 3.75Ghz Temperature: 39 0 minutes (fail)

CPU Volt: 1.3625v
CPU HOst Frequency:417mhz 3.75Ghz Temperature: 39 0 minutes (fail)

CPU Volt: 1.385v
CPU HOst Frequency:417mhz 3.75Ghz Temperature: 39 0 minutes (fail)



2.00D Strapper Section
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CPU Volt: 1.385v (2.00D)
CPU HOst Frequency:417mhz 3.75Ghz Temperature: 39 10 minutes stable

CPU Volt: 1.300v
CPU HOst Frequency:417mhz 3.75Ghz Temperature: 36 0 minutes (fail)


CPU Volt: 1.325v
CPU HOst Frequency:417mhz 3.75Ghz Temperature: 42 7 minutes stable

CPU Host Frequency:423mhz 3.80GHz Temperature: 38 2 minutes (fail)


CPU Volt: 1.350v
CPU HOst Frequency:423mhz 3.80Ghz Temperature: 42 16 minutes stable

CPU HOst Frequency:428mhz 3.85Ghz Temperature: 38 0 minutes (fail)

CPU Volt: 1.3625v
CPU HOst Frequency:428mhz 3.85Ghz Temperature: 42 5 minutes (fail)

CPU Volt: 1.375v
CPU HOst Frequency:428mhz 3.85Ghz Temperature: 45 17 minutes stable

CPU HOst Frequency:435mhz 3.91Ghz Temperature: 46 1 minutes (fail)

CPU Volt: 1.380v
CPU HOst Frequency:435mhz 3.91Ghz Temperature: 48 10 minutes (fail)

CPU Volt: 1.39v
CPU Host Frequency:435mhz 3.91Ghz Temperature: 49 5 minutes stable
Author:  MakeshiftPatriot [ Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:31 pm ]
Post subject: 
very nice, i think we can all appreciate the work you put into making this for us. i cant really edit anything on the side of putting the parts together etc, however, if you have the time, go into paint and circle the parts in the pics you are talking about for all of us nubs.

other than that nicely done,
props
Author:  Display [ Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:36 pm ]
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Yeah, I remember when I picked up that cooler by the fins, and immediately dropped it, shouting "OH FUCK" and cutting my 2 of my fingers. Don't know what I was thinking...

P.S. Cole, I dig the beard 8)
Author:  Penguin [ Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:40 pm ]
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Yeah.. i got mine halfway done.. I just need to know how to hook up the damned leds.. in other words.. I'm on hold till tomorrow =(
Author:  cursed sasuke [ Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:48 pm ]
Post subject: 
damn chris, u went 3 months into the future, then 9 months into the future? so your comp isn't done till 6/3 huh? :Po very nice, i wish i knew how to build my own computer, lucky people :o
Author:  cornholio [ Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:55 pm ]
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this inspires me to buy the new motherboard and buy the chip, also to neat my calbes.
Author:  bob [ Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:02 pm ]
Post subject: 
cursed sasuke wrote:
damn chris, u went 3 months into the future, then 9 months into the future? so your comp isn't done till 6/3 huh? :Po very nice, i wish i knew how to build my own computer, lucky people :o


Its in European date. as in 6/3/2008 is actually March 6, 2008.

:)
Author:  cursed sasuke [ Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:05 pm ]
Post subject: 
bob wrote:
cursed sasuke wrote:
damn chris, u went 3 months into the future, then 9 months into the future? so your comp isn't done till 6/3 huh? :Po very nice, i wish i knew how to build my own computer, lucky people :o


Its in European date. as in 6/3/2008 is actually March 6, 2008.

:)
(learned that in spanish class :P)......how was the future? jk lol
Author:  Penguin [ Mon Mar 17, 2008 1:57 am ]
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Yes, well.. I'm officialy posting from my new computer..=D! I'll be downloading updates for a while, just got it re-configured at... 1:56 AM! Got some shit on it, updates running. After a restart the major downloads will commence, lol Such as.. STEAM!..and..TS!..and whatever else is needed.
Author:  bob [ Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:47 am ]
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awesome awesome....

i'm currently running Prime 95 for 24hrs. @ 3.8GHz @ 1.368V

I am now working on Memory Voltage/Strappers. 14 hrs stable...as we speak. (very surprising) i didnt think i would be.

My memory is ddr2 1066, i'm running it at 1015...i'll see if i cant get closer later. I'll post my notes from my other computer later.

Just an idea of how much work goes into a real over clocking.
Author:  Infamous [ Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:47 pm ]
Post subject: 
Penguin

PICTURES!!!!
Author:  bob [ Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:16 pm ]
Post subject: 
Here we are...

I'm residing @ my final resting place @ 3.8GHz

This is me @ 24hrs Prime 95 stable
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notice my temp...under load is a nice 40C

not under load is a nice cool 25C

this baby runs COOOOLLLL
Author:  Infamous [ Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:28 pm ]
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nais compz gratz!!

lol. pretty effing sweet
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